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post May 1 2008, 12:52 PM
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Da li znate da se kroz vecinu metal(nih) pesama provlace satanski motivi i da su gotovo ocigledni? Da li ste u fazonu "ja volim tu muziku" i bla bla truc? Znate li koliko destruktivno i sama muzika moze uticati na vas? Znate li kakve rituale izvode uz black metal? And so on, and so on

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post May 1 2008, 12:53 PM
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Od teme o Hari Poteru znas sta mislim o ovome wink.gif ukratko: gluposti.


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post May 1 2008, 12:54 PM
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post May 1 2008, 12:55 PM
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post May 1 2008, 01:00 PM
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Slusham Metal, slusham Death Metal, slusham Doom Metal, Sweet Metal, Power Metal, Goth Metal ali ti shto navodno izvode rituale koristeci pentagram i neke sulude ideje su zapravo pozeri.
(imati u obziru da Pentagram nije djavolji znak).

Svako preterivanje je suvishno i samim tim je i suvishno kada neko prikuplja medijsku paznju time sto ce reci da je prodao/la dushu nechastivom ili slicne kojeshtarije.
NPR, King Diamond.
Inace, nisam bas doziveo to da me neka heavy metal pesma nakani na zlo, to pre cine one turbo folkerske wink.gif


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post May 1 2008, 01:02 PM
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Ja slusam sta mi se svidja kog god da je zanra ili ko god da ga izvodi...



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post May 1 2008, 01:06 PM
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QUOTE(Hannibal Lecter @ May 1 2008, 02:02 PM)
Ja slusam sta mi se svidja kog god da je zanra ili ko god da ga izvodi...
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Ne slusam metal, tako da bih se suzdrzala bilo kakvih daljih sudova sto se tice uticaja metala na ponasanje ljudi koji ga slusaju...Ali mislim da je to glupa predrasuda svi metalci su ovakvi,svi fenseri su onakvi sleep.gif

To je jbt. kao sto su zakljucili da su ona 2 klinca u amarici poubijali gomilu ucenika i profesora samo zato sto su slusali mensona blink.gif
Cisto lupetanje sleep.gif

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post May 1 2008, 01:10 PM
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QUOTE(Hannibal Lecter @ May 1 2008, 02:02 PM)
Ja slusam sta mi se svidja kog god da je zanra ili ko god da ga izvodi...
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Moje mishljenje je copy&paste gorenavedenog. smile.gif

@Topic:ta veza metal=satanizam potice direktno od izvodjaca kojima je fora da ih tako dozivljavaju.Eto uzmi samo na primer Lordi-je,onaj njihov hellboyz stajling pobrao je simpatije kod publike i zato su pobedili na Eurosongu...


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post May 1 2008, 01:50 PM
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QUOTE(Hannibal Lecter @ May 1 2008, 02:02 PM)
Ja slusam sta mi se svidja kog god da je zanra ili ko god da ga izvodi...
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Naravno


A to da je neko satanista ako slusa metal, to je kao da kazes nekome da je Cipelic zato sto mu smrde noge


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post May 1 2008, 02:01 PM
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znash onu pesmu o goblinima..

inace prvi post je cista predrasuda..


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post May 1 2008, 03:16 PM
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The ritual has begun Satan's work is done
666 the number of the beast
Sacrifice is going on tonight

If there's a God then why has he let me die?

Need the end to set me free
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Death greets me warm, now i will just say goodbye.

Let down your noose, I'll hang myself.
Saint Anger 'round my neck

Sanitarium, leave me be
Sanitarium, just leave me alone
Sanitarium, just leave me alone
Fear of living on
Natives getting restless now
Mutiny in the air
Got some death to do
Mirror stares back hard
Kill, it's such a friendly word
Seems the only way
For reaching out again

hold my breath as I wish for death
oh please God, wake me
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darkness imprisoning me
all that I see
absolute horror
I cannot live
I cannot die
trapped in myself
body my holding cell

Azazel is beside you and he's playing the game
Demons are inside you and they're making their play
Watching and they're hiding as they wait for the time
For a devil to get ready and take over your mind


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post May 1 2008, 03:21 PM
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QUOTE(Devojka sa mesecom u očima @ May 1 2008, 01:52 PM)
Da li znate da se kroz vecinu metal(nih) pesama provlace satanski motivi i da su gotovo ocigledni?
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Ne znam, sada dok sam trazio jedva sam uspevao da nadjem one koje su takve tongue.gif
QUOTE(Devojka sa mesecom u očima @ May 1 2008, 01:52 PM)
Da li ste u fazonu "ja volim tu muziku" i bla bla truc?
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Da biggrin.gif cheers.gif
QUOTE(Devojka sa mesecom u očima @ May 1 2008, 01:52 PM)
Znate li koliko destruktivno i sama muzika moze uticati na vas?
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Imam dovoljno mozga da se kontrolisem, a i kada sam nervozan i odslusam par metal pesama obicno se smirim.
QUOTE(Devojka sa mesecom u očima @ May 1 2008, 01:52 PM)
Znate li kakve rituale izvode uz black metal?
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Nemam pojma huh.gif

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post May 1 2008, 03:26 PM
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QUOTE(Devojka sa mesecom u očima @ May 1 2008, 01:52 PM)
Znate li kakve rituale izvode uz black metal?
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Pa i nekim drugim religijama je mozda hriscanska crkva sekta, jel?
Pa jel ondak treba da mrze tu crkvenu muziku (koja je meni licno zaista lepa), samo zato sto misle da je sektaska?

NE?!

Pobogu, ko ti bre puni glavu ovime?
Sta sad ja da mislim, zato sto slusas grand, obuces stikle i sminkas se da si automatski ona najobicnija guska?
WTF?
NE?

Sledeci put razmisli pre nego sto postujes nesto, da izvines, ovako glupo..
Jer cemo i mi da pocnemo sa predrasudama prema tebi..

I da, slusam metal, malo.. ne mnogo, ali da, slusam nesto..


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post May 1 2008, 03:28 PM
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QUOTE(kika™ @ May 1 2008, 04:26 PM)
Sta sad ja da mislim, zato sto slusas grand, obuces stikle i sminkas se da si automatski ona najobicnija guska?
WTF?
NE?
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Ja ovo redovno pomislim rolleyes.gif


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post May 1 2008, 03:30 PM
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Paaa ondak, nemoj da se vredjas ako ti neko kaze da si sektas XD.gif


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post May 1 2008, 03:31 PM
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Pa i ne vredjam se jer nisam XD.gif


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post May 1 2008, 03:42 PM
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QUOTE(Wolfbrother @ May 1 2008, 04:16 PM)
The ritual has begun Satan's work is done
666 the number of the beast
Sacrifice is going on tonight
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664 the numer of the whore
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999 899 pozovite Bekama da prska vam u krevet
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ja bas ne slušam metal, osim ako me Vukašina natera, i MRZIM taj satanski metal koji slušaju tamo neki Kuzmani biggrin.gif tongue.gif jk

mada je ova pesma od iron madena dobra, ima dobar beat, mada si ti Wolfbrother i dalje mali sk


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post May 1 2008, 03:50 PM
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Ma naravno...


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post May 1 2008, 04:16 PM
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Ja nemam predrasude prema osnivachu teme i istina je da se u zemljama kao shto je Amerika zaista "poshtuje" kvazioblik crne magije kroz neki vid satanizma.
IZM ostalog, to je sve za male umove.

Gledao sam, npr, shta rade neki likovi, tj, pevachi (ako je ono pevanje, dodushe) - Naime, dozvole da im probushe ledja nekim kukama, shtavec, i zatim ih podizu - ja ne razumem tu satisfakciju u takvom obliku bola...i dok tako probushen visi ispushta neke krike, jauche, ispushta glas iz stomaka - dodushe, nema to veze s satanizmom ali ima eze s umnobolnoshcu.

Hajde sad neka mi neko objasni kako u ovoj pesmi postoji neka satanistichka poruka???

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post May 1 2008, 04:17 PM
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Hmmmmmm..

Izgleda da je ovo jače od mene.. Da.. Moram da napišem nešto arugmentovanije od toga da me boli nježnik XD.gif.

Znači, ovako.


Da, SB ima pravo, određen deo izvođača metal muzike jesu sotonjare. Oni izvode kojekakve žnj obrede, bave se okultizmom, klanjaju se Vragu i pljuju/psuju Boga. Da, određen procenat metal muzike zaista ima nasilnički uticaj na pojedinca koji ga sluša.

On the other hand..
Mene svečano zabole za to što je neko sotonjara, ako pravi muziku koju ja volim. Lično, meni su sve te sekte i religije više-manje jednake. Dal štuješ Vraga il Boga, whats the difference; ja ne verujem ni u jednoga (bar definitivno ne ovako kako mi to predstavljamo). Neko reče: judging by the pictures, Hell looks more interesting. Mislim da ne moram objašnjavati zašto je Pakao bolja inspiracija za umetničko stvaralaštvo. Pa i Danteov "Inferno" je najbolji deo "Božanstvene komedije". Inače, čula (autorica teme ..a mogu i ostali, zapravo) si za White metal?

Drugo, ako ćemo o štetnom uticaju muzike, onda budimo dosledni i prikažimo štetan uticaj i nekih drugih žanrova. Mi ovde pričamo o metalu koji nas "direktno tera na nasilje", a zaboravljamo na npr. turbo folk koji nas "direktno tera na preljubu". Mislim, možemo nabrojiti ovako koliko got želiš različitih primera.. rolleyes.gif

No, s druge strane, ti prikazuješ samo jednu stranu ovoga novčića. Da li si znala da postoji masa metal pesama koje promovišu zapravo love&peace itd? Primera radi:
Kamelot - Don't you cry
Within Temptation - Mother Earth
I izuzetno poznata, (ako ovo nije PEACE, onda me ubij motikom iz ovih stopa), stara, heavy metal pesma:
Scorpions - Wind of Change

I da se osvrnem na jednu frazu iz prvog posta.
"Mentalci" je uvreda. A to je zabranjeno po pravilniku (i to prva stavka). Odmah se bunimo kad neki metalac/rocker kaže za fensere/cajkaše da su glupi (itd), a ovo je ..OK?
Znači, tvoja predrasuda je infantilna i glupa (ovo nije vređanje, činjenica je). I besmislena, neosnovana, itd. Vidi zašto:
QUOTE(Stuart Cadwallader @ a psychologist at the University of Warwick)
The results of a study of more than 1,000 of the brightest five per cent of young people will come as relief to parents whose offspring, usually long-haired, are devotees of Iron Maiden, AC/DC and their musical descendants.

Researchers found that, far from being a sign of delinquency and poor academic ability, many adolescent "metalheads" are extremely bright and often use the music to help them deal with the stresses and strains of being gifted social outsiders.


Još malo o tome kako metal ima POZITIVAN uticaj na mlade ljude
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/...70321130834.htm
(o ovome je i Wolbrother nešto rekao, je l' te)
I nemoj da neko kaže s.ranje od istraživanja.. blabla. Jer, "This is the conclusion of Stuart Cadwallader and Professor Jim Campbell of The National Academy for Gifted and Talented Youth at the University of Warwick ", a oni su ipak kompetentniji od svih nas zajedno da govore o tome.





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Zastrašena sam. Prestrašena.
Kad vidim kakvih sve ima umova. ph34r.gif


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