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Iva
post Jan 1 2008, 08:12 PM
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No hat.. da vas čujem smile.gif.
Nemamo nekih ozbiljnijih rasprava ili šta znam, a upravo sam se nešto s prikom raspravljala o električnoj jegulji, pa.. happy.gif


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Hannibal Lecter
post Jan 1 2008, 08:20 PM
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Ne znam puno o evoluciji da bi nesto raspravljao.
Stavio sam "Prilagođenu" evoluciju...


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post Jan 1 2008, 08:25 PM
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..which makes two of us smile.gif.


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post Jan 1 2008, 09:07 PM
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I ja sam, ali svaka teorija ima neke rupe, tako da je to logican odgovor.

Inace mislim da je kreacionizam gomila gluposti

I da li ste znali da je u nekim americki drzavama zabranjeno predavanje teorije evolucije u skolama, vec uce kreacionizam


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post Jan 1 2008, 09:13 PM
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post Jan 1 2008, 09:15 PM
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Mi don't kno'. Evolucija mi nikada nije bila nesto posebno, ali me fasciniraju paukovi koji su evoluirali na taj nacin da prave mreze, a zatim rokaju k'o ludi. Pitanje se uvek postavlja "SHTA" je navelo njihov ogranizam da postane takav ukoliko uzimamo u obzir njihov nastanak...
Naravno, najlogicnije je reci "uticaj okoline", ali me zivo zanima.


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post Jan 1 2008, 09:24 PM
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Ti u svakoj nauci mozes da postavis pitanje zasto (sem u matematici), na koje neces dobiti nikakav odgovor, tako da je to i ovde slucaj.

Ali ja bih pre rekao prirodna selekcija, nego uticaj okoline. Jer u nekom periodu (kambrijskom valjda) su postojali mnogo raznovrsniji organizmi (sto se tice oblika, nacina zivota...) i od njih su preziveli samo najprilagodjeniji


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post Jan 1 2008, 09:52 PM
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Zanima me ko je glasao za apsolutnu evoluciju, zanima me obrazloženje. Javi se! tongue.gif


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post Jan 1 2008, 10:33 PM
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QUOTE(c1k4_ml3kc3 @ Jan 1 2008, 09:15 PM)
Mi don't kno'. Evolucija mi nikada nije bila nesto posebno, ali me fasciniraju paukovi koji su evoluirali na taj nacin da prave mreze, a zatim rokaju k'o ludi. Pitanje se uvek postavlja "SHTA" je navelo njihov ogranizam da postane takav ukoliko uzimamo u obzir njihov nastanak...
Naravno, najlogicnije je reci "uticaj okoline", ali me zivo zanima.
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Pa posto se Zemlja menjala, logicno je da su se menjala i bica


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post Jan 1 2008, 11:15 PM
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Na uticaj okoline nisam mislio na "uticaj" koji je nacinio covek, ali naravno da se podrazumeva da najveci uticaj na ljudski svet ima Priroda, tj, za sada je to najvishe puta dokazano.
Pritom, covek je jedina "zivotinja" koja se provlaci kroz evoluciju jednosmernom linijom, dok ostale zivotinje imaju "grane".
Inace, nisam glasao ni za jednu opciju obzirom da se ne razumem.

@: Noddy, hvala na eksplanaciji, bez tebe i Bosne ja ne bih ziveo.


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post Jan 1 2008, 11:20 PM
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QUOTE(c1k4_ml3kc3 @ Jan 1 2008, 11:15 PM)
Pritom, covek je jedina "zivotinja" koja se provlaci kroz evoluciju jednosmernom linijom, dok ostale zivotinje imaju "grane".
Inace, nisam glasao ni za jednu opciju obzirom da se ne razumem.
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Covek se posmatra kao vrsta majmuna, a ne kao zasebna vrsta, pa samim tim i ne mora da se "grana"...
Inace genetska razlika izmedju simpanza i ljudi je u samo 1% smile.gif


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To be a rock and not to roll


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post Jan 2 2008, 02:31 AM
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Prilagodjena evolucija. Kreacionizam... Dunno sad. Eventuelno prilagodjeni, prema navedenoj definiciji.


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post Jan 2 2008, 03:03 AM
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QUOTE(c1k4_ml3kc3 @ Jan 1 2008, 11:15 PM)
Pritom, covek je jedina "zivotinja" koja se provlaci kroz evoluciju jednosmernom linijom, dok ostale zivotinje imaju "grane".
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Otkud ti to? Kao prvo ljudi ti jako kratko postoje. Kao drugo, neandertalci su jedan evolutivni pokusaj koji je ''propao'' a dosta lice na danasnje ljude.


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post Jan 2 2008, 04:14 AM
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Gledao sam na diskaveriju jednom prilikom. pricali su o ljudskoj civilizaciji kao i o evoluciji. Pomenushe da ukoliko se nastavi korishcenje misha, nasha dva prsta (obzirom da vecina ljudi koristi desnu ruku) ce se produziti...
Evo ti Noddy tvoje Evolucije biggrin.gif
http://cyberpingui.free.fr/humour/evolution-white.jpg
A ja cu se drzati mog znanja.


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post Jan 2 2008, 01:50 PM
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Znam za ovu sliku biggrin.gif
Ja sam se najvise evoluirao biggrin.gif


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post Jan 2 2008, 08:53 PM
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Hahaha... biggrin.gif


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post Jan 2 2008, 09:01 PM
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post Jan 2 2008, 11:36 PM
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Teorija evolucije nije savrsena. I to je najvise sto mogu da joj zamere.

Nervira me cela ta prica oko toga da li je teorija evolucije tacna ili ne. Teorija evolucije je zvanicni stav nauke.

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post Jan 3 2008, 01:11 AM
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Nijedna teorija nije savrsena.


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post Jan 3 2008, 04:16 AM
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QUOTE(Nostradamus @ Jan 3 2008, 02:11 AM)
Nijedna teorija nije savrsena.
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Naravno naravno. Perfekcionisti neka se bave teoremama, a ne teorijama biggrin.gif


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